The question is below (in russian)
Свободным человек может стать только через свободу других людей?

English:
"I can neither affirm nor live my freedom without also affirming the freedom of others?"

French (original):
"Se vouloir libre, c'est aussi vouloir les autres libres."

The original is an affirmation. I put this as an interrogation to bring about a discussion and have some learning of both linguistics and autonomous free-thinking :-)

Thanks for PocoMaxa, who found the real translation of this phrase for russian, and sorry for the mess in the last question. I was -and still am - really lacking of sources. Just a beginner russian autodidact student. I can't even read and pronounce the cyrillic alphabet as fast as I do with the latin... If you can put beside of the answer a free translation in english, or even another language you want, be welcome. :-)

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The question is below (in russian)
Свободным человек может стать только через свободу других людей?

English:
"I can neither affirm nor live my freedom without also affirming the freedom of others?"

French (original):
"Se vouloir libre, c'est aussi vouloir les autres libres."

The original is an affirmation. I put this as an interrogation to bring about a discussion and have some learning of both linguistics and autonomous free-thinking :-)

Thanks for PocoMaxa, who found the real translation of this phrase for russian, and sorry for the mess in the last question. I was -and still am - really lacking of sources. Just a beginner russian autodidact student. I can't even read and pronounce the cyrillic alphabet as fast as I do with the latin... If you can put beside of the answer a free translation in english, or even another language you want, be welcome. :-)

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Оригинальная цитата (на фр.) идет от феминистки 20-го в. Симоны де Бовуар. Французским не владею нисколько, нашел перевод здесь: http://cpsy.ru/cit1352.htm 
Упомянутая цитата в первой строке этого вопроса и перевод её Ивенсом на английский имеют совершенно разное смысловое значение..

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3. В свободном обществе я по настоящему свободен
звучит идеоматично

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в русском предложении смысл понятен - вас поймут, но так не говорят. было бы грамотно перевести следующим образом:
1. Я не могу быть свободным в несвободном обществе/окружении
2. Только в свободном обществе я чувствую себя свободным

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