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I think it's a mistake to only speak English with native speakers. Why not speak English with someone from another country, even if it's not the US/UK/Australia/etc.?
One of my friends is Chinese, but does a lot of business in India. Sure, their English conversations don't have perfect grammar, but they communicate a lot and become comfortable using the language for communication. After that, you can work on "perfection."
0 votedFebruary 28, 20140I think it depends on what you mean by "read" the Quran. I know plenty of Muslims who can read the sounds on the page, but they don't actually know Arabic so they don't really understand what they're reading. They need a translation to understand what's actually in the book. They can just memorize the sounds of the Arabic in the Quran and read the alphabet. But if you give them an Arabic newspaper they'd be lost.
So yeah, I don't think that counts as "reading" to me. More "decoding."
0 votedMay 24, 20130Listen, if you want to make a thread about how the Quran is 100% true all the time, then title your thread "The Quran is always true."
Don't make a deceptive question, ask for answers, and then lecture the "ignorant unbelievers" about the Quran while ignoring their answers. It's dishonest and annoying.
If you have a question, ask a question. If you have a lecture, give a lecture. Don't disguise your lecture as a question.
0 votedMay 23, 201301) USA
2) 2, Spanish and French.
I felt like it was effective for teaching me to read, less so to write. The main flaw is that I spent most of my time interacting with fellow students and my teacher, who wasn't a native speaker. So I went six years of Spanish without ever speaking to a native speaker, which created quite a shock when I actually tried it for real the first time. . .
0 votedMay 23, 20130From studies of the time it takes children to learn to read, Japanese and Chinese are basically tied for "takes the most time to learn how to read in them." Chinese and Japanese kids generally take 2 or 3 years longer to learn how to read fluently than children who grow up with alphabet based languages.
So objectively, they're harder to read and write than other languages. As far as speaking goes, they're neither harder nor easier than others, objectively speaking. But otherwise it really depends on your first language. Mine is English, so French and Spanish obviously come faster to me than Arabic and Chinese.
Still, the thing that nobody ever talks about in these discussions is materials. English actually isn't that "easy" to learn, but English is everywhere and tons of good materials exist. I actually feel that Chinese--despite being harder to read--is "easier" to learn than Arabic mostly because more and better materials exist for Chinese, and because Mandarin is much more standardized and widely used than fus7a (MSA/Modern Standard Arabic).
With Chinese you can just study Mandarin and usually get by anywhere. Nobody really speaks fus7a in the Arab world, so if you want to really communicate you need to learn both fus7a and a dialect. Which, in my experience, makes it harder to make progress in despite maybe being "easier" to read (and not being a tone language like Chinese).
But really it comes down to your first language, materials available, and your interest/motivation level.
0 votedMay 23, 20130I think that Arabic is difficult because nobody knows what "Arabic" actually is.
Is Arabic fus7a? Well, nobody actually speaks fus7a. So which dialect should one study if they want to study "Arabic"? Egyptian? Moroccan? Tunisian? Saudi? Iraqi? All are different, and some (Algeria vs. Iraq, for example) are almost totally different languages. But they're all "Arabic."
And good luck finding books and materials for learning dialects. 90% only teach fus7a, which you need for reading but isn't useful for speaking (because while other people will understand you, you won't understand their dialect, so it's not a real conversation!).
So I think that Arabic isn't harder to learn than a lot of other languages (hello Chinese), but the problem is figuring out what the word "Arabic" means. And once you do that, finding good materials for ACTUAL SPOKEN ARABIC (i.e. dialects) is very difficult. I don't think the language itself is harder, but the process of studying it is very confusing and frustrating.
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