Hi Adrian, thank you for your correction. 

The point you're making is right. Some ways of speaking ARE considered of higher level than others and some accents are considered bad, I've never said it wasn't. My question was: is it normal? As you said, we all know the answer to your last question, but is it right? Is it normal to throw someone into a social class just because of an accent that they, moreover, didn't choose? This is my question. What does it mean to be "considered as good speakers"? What you're saying is that someone who would have learnt English in a Scottish village by force of circumstances would have to accept to be considered as a bad speaker? 

I don't believe that Swiss farmers are bad German speakers. I don't believe that Congolese are bad French speakers. I'm not saying they are not considered as such, I am saying there's no reason to say it. I am sorry if you consider it politically correct (thank you for enlightening me with your knowledge but I knew what it meant) and I by the way have no idea how you came up with that conslusion, I didn't know that considering all languages as equal reflected the current fashion, you should tell me which fashion then. 

Ahah yeah Phil you're right, I have to say I really like it as well, the same going on for "90", unfortunately we didn't go further by simplifying " 80 " as well :p 

Pedro I perfectly understand why some call it " real " and how this expression has come up, I juts think the term is not very well chosen at all. 

Hi Fred! 

You're right, this is a big issue, and I have always come across things on Italki I wouldn't have seen in my worst nightmares... 

My answer is very simple but seem obvious to me: people should avoid correcting things if they don't master the language. I can hold a conversation in English but I would never afford to correct an entry because I don't speak it perfectly and I don't have that natural feeling native speakers have. 

Caroline, your contribution is nothing but useless, thanks! It is definitely a marketing trick that should be avoided though, What is more lovely than " l'accent du sud " ? Sometimes strong accents are more colourful and enjoyable than neutral ones, if neutral accents exist. 

I totaly agree with you, the Chinese girl (I'm so sorry but for some reasons I can't copy/paste your name and I have no idea how to write it) except that I wouldn't say that nothing is pure, but that everything is. All dialects and variants and real and pure, that's what I would say, but we have the same idea :) 

Michael that's a very interesting point you're making! Though I've already heard such things with English as well, it is true that France is the most known French speaking country, and that foreigners rarely think of the big variety of French speaking countries and we all tend to forget that most of the French native speakers live today in Africa. And you hit the exact spot, writing such an article is on my mind since a while, I should be thinking of it as soon as possible :) 

Phil, I couldn't agree more. But I wouldn't say : " who cares? ", I'd rather say: everyone should care! Being aware of those differences can really open doors and make someone richer. I am so glad French varies that much, it is always lovely to meet French people and making fun of our differences. 

Altini Yes! That's why I am still having successful students I guess :) 

Laura no, I don't want to target anyone here so I won't send you the links but it is clearly not in this way, they are definitely implying that some languages aren't real.

Ewa to prawda! And don't worry ahah, I'm not fearing for myself, I'm fine with my students, and I will never change myself and my language because of that ;) ! 

Benjamin, merci de ta réponse, mais je suis de nouveau mal à l'aise avec ta question. L'accent est la façon dont les mots sont prononcés et dont les sons sont mis en relation, tout homme capable d'émettre des sons a donc un accent. On parle tous d'une manière propre, à Paris ou à Bamako. 

Sid1995, I see your point of view but Im' not sure if the word 'invent' is appropriate. Languages were not invented as elecricity or mills were invented. Event though the organization that 'rules' the language ( L' Académie Française for French, l'Accademia della Crusca for Italian ) are in the '"original" country, the term " real French, real German" is absolutely wrong in my view.