THE LIE OF "ARMENIAN GENOCIDE"
I am here to get new friends and also improve my English... This is my first aim in here... And I didn't think that if I can join a discussion or not. But I think it is necessary for this time. Because we have to respond to something. And if you (and your ancestor) accused of genocide, normaly this is your right to answer them… Because some Armenians still claim on genocide and the third parties who doesn’t know anything about this subject (events in 1915) could believe “there was a genocide at that time”
I am a history teacher. History is also a disciplined which has rules. That means when you say or claim something about history you must proof them with documents, eyewitness… We say them shortly “Historical sources” And the first rule is this for history when you anlysis an event in the past…
Let’s pass a short analysis of the events…
Before the WW I Ottoman Empire was in a bad situation. It lost many land from Africa and also Balkans. And a new war which we call it now WW 1 appeared. Ottomans joined this war in 1914 as an ally of Germany against England, France and Russians… And a new opportunity had arisen for Armenians to independence. They were planning this long before and they built two organization fort this which is called Taşnak (Taşnaksutyun, established in 1889 in Switzerland) and Hınçak (established 1887 in Switzerland). In the end of 1914 Ottomans third army which was controll the eastern side of Anatolia tried to attack to the Russian army in Sarıkamış. But they were lose the attack because of cold condition. Many Ottoman soldiers died from cold. After this unsuccesfull attack this side of Empire is became so weak. By the leading of these committe and also with Russian helps (they gave rifles, guns and arms to them) Armenians groups started massacre against area’s (Erzurum and Van especially) muslim groups Turks and Kurds. Because Turks and Kurds are problem for independence of Armenians… And another claim from them: Our population is more than Turks in East side of here. (Also this is not true, Amiral Bristol, who was an USA general reported this) Even if they want to clear that area from muslims. So they started a big massacre in Turkish and Kurdish village because they knew these village’s men and youngs were in military service and the village have no defence. Then town centers and city centers were also under Armenians attacking… These were not just killing, they tortured them. Let’s have a look at that term eyewitness who was under Armenian torture.
(Armenians soldiers also did this in Hocalı/Azerbaycan in 1992)
I know many of you can't understand their speaking but you will understand a common language of human beings: They are still “crying” when they memorize that day, when they memorize what the Armenians did to them... Have a check please...
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdpsRU-V-KY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdpsRU-V-KY</a>
(The first man in this video says shortly: My brother was killed in front of my father. Armenians cut his head and teasing my father “this is your victim from us” / and the woman says… “Some of our injured soldiers come to our villages, they camped in a village room, then they lined by rope… ohh noo please don’t memorize me that they, please don’t refresh my memorize” And the last one in video talking about they had to hidden their house, an done of Armenian neighbour forced him to join house by slapped him then said “These Armenians kill all of you…” then he starts to cry…)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF-s9GkFWE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dcKi0jzj0
There are many videos like this. But for here it is enough I think… If you want their full translation I can translate them.
After these massacre Ottoman government decided to forced migrate these Armenians groups (but only these group which lives over there, not in İstanbul the capital city of Ottoman) to another safe place of Empire which is under control Ottoman army like Syria, Adana, Urfa, Maraş, Gaziantep. (But these places will occupied by French army and Armenians joined French army against Ottomans) Şam (Damascus), Halep, Beyrut, Bagdat… And government took precaution for their safety. These groups were under guarding ottoman securities. In spite of everything during this migration because of disease (like cholera) and the attacking of Kurdish tribes many of Armenians died and killed. (These Kurdish groups were which their families killed and raped, and the houses burned by Armenians and they wanted to get revenge.) Now Armenians says 1.500.000 were killed in this “genocide”… But according to their patriarchy (Armenian patriarchy) Armenian population is about only 1.018.000 (This is so important because this is an evidence from their sides, not from the Ottoman’s offical documents sides (for Ottomans, Armenian population in thise area is 784.917) Even in an exagerating population Armenian patriarchy say “we are 1.018.000”, but nowadays Armenians claims that 1.500.000 were killed. This is also ironic. (You can find this numbers in article of Justin McCarthy “Ottomans Armenians Population” is title of article, and he is not Turkish historian, he is just a objective historian)
Genocide is described by United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948.
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt;"><a name="Article_2.4">(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;</a></li>
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Genocide is so harsh description fort hat time events. Shortly, it was not a genocide which is designed by Ottoman government directly against Armenians. And also this forced immigration was not include the Armenians who lived in İstanbul at that time… It was only just for Armenians who killed innocent people at that area. And the Armenians which forced miggration spread all over the world from that areas.
Nowadays Armenians still claim that there was a genocide in 1915. But they just “say”. Nothing more. They can’t show any proof any evidence of it. They only says “Many countries accept the genocide in their parlemento”… And this is not a proof of for history. This is not a political problems, this is an histrocial problem and it must be quarrelled by historians, Political men can’t decide and also many of them can’t know what happened exactly in 1915 in Anatolia… And, if many parlemento would accepted that “America did’t discovered 1492 by C. Colombo” that means not correct knowlodge about history?
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93fbwU4KlpU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93fbwU4KlpU</a> (Justin McCarthy, historian)
And an English video for summarize what happened in 1915…
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpenWM2fZ9k">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpenWM2fZ9k</a>
And the other one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hybLswrRpjk
Please search both side of documents but with its evidences… You can search also Russian documents. Verb without evidence is not history…
(Sorry for my grammer mistakes… And please correct my grammer mistakes)
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