Learning Italian: please could someone give me a simple explanation of when to use 'ne' and 'ci'?
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Hi James!
"Ci" is an article that is used to avoid repetition and that replaces a place phrase. Ex.: Sei a casa? (you are at home?)=> Sì, ci sono (yes Iam "there").
"Ne" has also the same function but replaces a complement that can't be quantified or that is introduced by an indefinite article. Ex.: Vuoi dei biscotti? (you want some cookies?)=> Sì, ne voglio. ( yes I want "some of them").
Is that clear? :D
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Simple answer: no, we cannot give you a *simple* explanation about it.
I will try anyway to help you.
a) "Ci" has MAINLY 3 meanings.
1) "There/in that place" : "Adesso ci vado" = "Adesso vado lì" = "Now I go there"
2) Personal pronoun "us" or "to us"
"Fra poco ci ammazzano" : "They will kill us soon"
"Fra poco ci diranno qualcosa" : "They will say something to us soon"
3) Reflexive pronoun "ourselves"
"Ci vogliamo tutti bene" : "We all love ourselves"
b) "Ne" has mainly 2 meanings:
1) adverb of place "From (t)here"
"Sono in casa e non ne voglio uscire" : "I'm at home and I do not want to exit from (t)here"
"Ho un problema e non ne vengo a capo" : "I have a problem and I cannot solve it" (lit. "I can't escape from there")
2) "of/about this/these/those"
"Ho un problema ma non ne voglio parlare" : "I have a problem but I don't want to talk about it"
"Vuoi delle caramelle? Sì, ne voglio un po' " : "Do you want some candies? Yes, I'd like to have some of these"
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Hi James,
1. We use CI as a pronoun complement (to avoid repeating a complement) whenever we have a verb with preposition A. For example: the verb PENSARE A (think about/of). "Pensi spesso alla tua famiglia? Si, CI (alla mia famiglia) penso spesso.
2. We use NE with verbs that go with the preposition DI like for example "avere bisogno di": a friend says "Ho bisogno di una vacanza!" and you answer "Anch'io NE ho bisogno". NE refers to "vacanza".
It is also used with the meaning of SOME to refer to unknown quantities. In italian we use "del/della/dell'/dello" as the equivalent of some in English.
For example: "Vorrei dell'acqua" (I'd like some water") "Quanta NE vuoi?" (How much of it (NE) would you like?). In this case we use NE to refer to some water.
Or "Ti va un pò di torta?" "Si, ne voglio solo un pezzettino" (NE means a PART of cake").
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