Is "第一声" short for "一声"
Sorry for my confusing question; I meant "Is '一声' short for '第一声'?"
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It depends on the context. If you are talking about tones, 一声 is the short for 第一声. For other context, it is not the short form but "a/one sound". For example, 雨天一声雷, a clash of thunder on a rainy day.
传来一声, a sound came
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In Chinese, sequence numbers can appear in these ways:
(1) 第一声 (2) 一声 (3) 习题7
Difference between (1)and (2) : 第一声is more offical.
When the breviation is not to cause confusion, 第一(二...)* is often cut into 一(二...)*. 第一号文件---> 一号文件.
By contrast, when 第一* and 一* have different meanings, the abbreviation is not allowed. 我吃了第三个苹果 VS 我吃了三个苹果. ( When the abbreviation is possible? I'd rather not discuss here.)
Why the abbreviation: the rhythm. Chinese language requires a lot in thythm and symmetry, the basic foot is two syllables. 一 /衣带水 ==> 一衣 /带水.
Less frequent foots are monosyllable and trisyllable.
Succesive two one-one syllables are often combined into a so-called 'phonological word' bisyllable.
An odd monosyllable is often treated in two ways: 1. if it has an accent, lenthen its sound so that it's as long as a bisyllble,and correspondingly shorten the sound of each of the immediate two syllables. 长(-)头发 东方朔(-) .
2. if it does not has any accent, shorten its sound so that the trisyllable sounds like a bisyllable in the length. 不(得)不 , 小(不)点, 红(-)苹果,红(苹果)
So which syllables have accents? (1) those you are puttin emphasis on (2) the core elements in the words
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And so forth, and so forth
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In Chinese, sequence numbers can appear in these ways:
第一声,一声
Difference: 第一声is more offical.
Why the abbreviation: the rhythm. Chinese language requires a lot in thythm and symmetry, the basic foot is two syllables. 一 /衣带水 ==> 一衣 /带水.
Less frequent foots are monosyllable and trisyllable.
Succesive two one-one syllables are often combined into a so-called 'phonological word' bisyllable.
An odd monosyllable is often treated in two ways: 1. if it has an accent, lenthen its sound so that it's as long as a bisyllble,and correspondingly shorten the sound of each of the immediate syllables. 长(-)头发 东方朔(-) .
2. if it does not has any accent, shorten its sound so that the trisyllable sounds like a bisyllable in the length. 不(得)不 , 小(不)点,
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In this case, I think it is simply an abbreviation, but the word 第 typically indicates the place in an order; by which I mean 1st, 2nd, 3rd as opposed to one, two, three. Without the 第, a number plus a counter will indicate a quantity of that object.
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Is it slang, or...? Why is it shortened like that?
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