"までで"
Recently I ran into this sentence
来年末までで、ここで働き始めてどれくらいの期間になりますか
"How long will you have been working here by the end of next year?"

I've already tried doing some research, but failed to find any clarifications, or even examples of it being used anywhere, with the exception of 今までで.
My question is about whether there there any differences between it and までに?

Question

"までで"
Recently I ran into this sentence
来年末までで、ここで働き始めてどれくらいの期間になりますか
 "How long will you have been working here by the end of next year?"

I've already tried doing some research, but failed to find any clarifications, or even examples of it being used anywhere, with the exception of 今までで.
My question is about whether there there any differences between it and までに?

Answer

X までに means “by X” ; “by the time X”
Xまでで can be translated as “by X”  but it actually means “something continues until / up to X and stops at X, although it can continue beyond X)

明日までに、宿題を終わらせます。　　I will finish my homework by tomorrow.
明日までで、学校は終わりです。　　　My school will continue until tomorrow and finish tomorrow.

来月末までに、仕事をやめますか。　　Will you stop working by the end of next month?
来月末までで、仕事をやめますか。　 　Will you continue to work until the end of next month and stop working at the end of next month?

I put literal English translations. Are they clear enough for you?

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