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Past Perfect and Past Simple hi, i want to ask you something. I am reading now that : " If the Past Perfect action did occur at a specific time, the Simple Past can be used instead of the Past Perfect when "before" or "after" is used in the sentence. The words "before" and "after" actually tell you what happens first, so the Past Perfect is optional." so in this logic, can we say '' We had that car for ten years before it broke down." instead of "We had had that car for ten years before it broke down." ? Also " George repaired many cars before he received his mechanic's license" and "George had repaired many cars before he received his mechanic's license" , thanks!

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We use Simple Past if we give past events in the order in which they occurred. However, when we look back from a certain time in the past to tell what had happened before, we use Past Perfect. Simple Past = some time in the past Example: Jane got up at seven. She opened her birthday presents and then the whole family went to the zoo. Past Perfect Simple= before/up to a certain time in the past Example: Before her sixth birthday, Jane had never been to the zoo.
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Yes. All of those sentences are great!
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hi! thank you for answering. about mechanics i didn't really pay any attention, i copied it like that from a site. they were giving some examples and at the end they said "If the Past Perfect action did occur at a specific time, the Simple Past can be used instead of the Past Perfect when "before" or "after" is used in the sentence." so i just saw 2 sentences they've given and i wanted to be sure that this is actual for ALL the sentences with before or after. So as i see now, i can use both of them. I am really having great problems with the tenses. Thank you once again! :)
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The two sentences about the car breaking down are fine; both are acceptable. Saying "we had had that car for ten years before it ..... sounds well put together, and like how an educated person would speak. One detail: mechanics' license is correct, NOT mechanic's. nouns ending in S that are used in the possessive come after the S. it's a strange rule in English. Another example, " She was the Jones' daughter." The sentence about George is interesting. The first version of the sentence sounds like American English; and the second version sounds spoken by a British person... a little more formal to always include the "had", Americans often drop it so their speech comes out quicker.... a form of slang almost. :)

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