"Ra" ... again :)
Every time I think I'm starting to understand "ra", I see something that proves I don't.
I came across these two sentences today ...
مَن اصلا فارسی صُحبَت نِمی کُنَم
مَن اصلاً فارسی را نِمی فهمم
I don't speak Farsi at all
I don't understand Farsi at all.
Now, maybe the problem is that I don't understand transitive and intransitive verbs - but I believe an transitive verb requires an object and an intransitive verb doesn't.
By that definition, both of these verbs are intransitive because they can both be used without an object. For example, both of the following sentences make sense (In English anyway) ...
I don't speak.
I don't think.
Therefore, I can't understand why one sentence used "ra" and the other one didn't. The object in both sentences is identical ("Farsi") and both verbs are intransitive.
So, I thought I'd ask this question another way ....
As a native Persian speaker, what is your intent when you use "ra"? What meaning are you trying to convey when you make the decision to either use or not use "ra"?
Or maybe a better question is - do you actually make a conscious decision to use or not use "ra" or is it just that after years of hearing/speaking Farsi you just use it when it "feels right"?
Search from various English teachers...
Answers · 4
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no, I don't make a conscious decision about this.
notice that:
1 "فهمیدن" and "فکر کردن" have different meanings however their corresponding words in English ("to understand" and "to think") can be synonyms.
2 some verbs are both transitive and intransitive like "understand" in English.
3 in the sentence "مَن اصلا فارسی صُحبَت نِمی کُنَم' I think there is a preposition "به" before the "فارسی" that have been omitted in spoken language.
a good way that may help you in this regard is to remember verbs like this:
چیزی را فهمیدن
با کسی صحبت کردن
به زبانی صحبت کردن
به چیزی فکر کردن
actually this is the way that we also use to remember the preposition of some low usage verbs in school.
the below link may help you as it is explaining the sentence components of the English language in Farsi.
http://englishnice.com/%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%AC%D9%85%D9%84%D9%87-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%86%DA%AF%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%B3%DB%8C/
Best luck with your learning.
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Hi Michael مایکل
Have a look at: https://dictionary.abadis.ir/fatofa/%D8%B1%D8%A7/
I hope you find this helpful.
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