Question regarding dative case and indirect object/adjective
If I say the following sentence;

‘With a small jacket’

Then the ‘mit’ triggers the dative and the indirect object ‘ein’ will take an ‘er’ ending and the adjective kleine an ‘n’ ending;

‘Mit eineR kleineN Jacke’

However, if I were to say;

With small jacket (with no indirect object);

I assumed that it would be as follows;

Mit kleinen Jacke

and that the ‘kleine’ would still take an ‘n’ ending as an adjective following mit.

However, I’ve tried the sentence on the various translation websites (which I know are far from fallible), and it’s coming up as follows;

Mit kleineR Jacke

without an indirect object it’s thus treating ‘klein’ as the indirect object (rather than an adjective) and giving it the ‘er’ ending

Is this correct?

This has somewhat confused me to say the least and I can find no plausible explanation.

Hopefully someone can help and maybe explain this to me??

Thanks

Laura

Question

Question regarding dative case and indirect object/adjective
If I say the following sentence;

‘With a small jacket’

Then the ‘mit’ triggers the dative and the indirect object ‘ein’ will take an ‘er’ ending and the adjective kleine an ‘n’ ending;

‘Mit eineR kleineN Jacke’

However, if I were to say;

With small jacket (with no indirect object);

I assumed that it would be as follows;

Mit kleinen Jacke

and that the ‘kleine’ would still take an ‘n’ ending as an adjective following mit.

However, I’ve tried the sentence on the various translation websites (which I know are far from fallible), and it’s coming up as follows;

Mit kleineR Jacke

without an indirect object it’s thus treating ‘klein’ as the indirect object (rather than an adjective) and giving it the ‘er’ ending  

Is this correct?

This has somewhat confused me to say the least and I can find no plausible explanation.

Hopefully someone can help and maybe explain this to me??

Thanks

Laura

Answer

mit kleineR Jacke

Learn the declensions of adjectives with no article!
kleiner     kleine    kleines         kleine
kleinen    kleine    kleines         kleine
kleinen** kleiner   kleinen**      kleiner
kleinem   kleiner   kleinem        kleinen

**Regarding the genitive:
sauberEN WasserS; hohEN GeistES; the noun cops the genitive ending.

The rest should be downhill from here.

Answer

Die Regel ist ganz einfach: Wenn wir  keinen Artikel haben, dann trägt das Adjektiv die Endung  des Artikel als Ersatz, egal ob es Nominativ ,Akkusativ oder Dativ:  
  Beispiele:
1. Nominativ:  Hier ist dER schwarze Tee.  SchwarzER Tee schmeckt gut.
2. Akkusativ: Ich bestelle einEN schwarzen Tee. Ich trinke schwarzEN Tee gern.
3. Dativ : Mit dEM schwarzen Tee trinke ich Milch. Ja, mit schwarzEM Tee ist Mich super!

NUR GENITIV ist anders: Der Geschmack dES schwarzen Tees ist angenehm, aber der Geschmack grünEN Tees ist mir eckelhaft.  ( Also im  Genitiv hat das Adjektiv nur "en" abgesehen vom Artikel.
                         Ähnlich bei Neutrum , Femininum und Plural.

Wenn Sie eine kleine Übung dazu möchten, könnte ich eine  schreiben und sie  gerne im Nu korrigieren:)

Answer

Hello Laure,

How are you :)

This is the 'Regel' mentioned above.
mit einER kleinen Jacke.
mit kleinER Jacke ( when you remove the 'einer')

Notice that you are a bit confused about the sentence components.
'mit' is a preposition, 'einer' is a definite article like 'a' in English , 'klein' is an adjetive and remains so ,it doesn't become an indirect object as you mentioned, then the noun or Substantiv 'Jacke' follows.
"mit einer kleinen Jacke' is not an indirect object , it is just a (preposition/article/adjective/noun) combination.

Dein Beispiel ist einbißchen irreführend.

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