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My Urdu Experience Today Hi, today I went to a Pakistani restaurant to buy nan while I was in Manhattan. Standing there, waiting online, I was debating whether to speak in Urdu or English. I consider that if I don't speak in Urdu, then it makes all of the effort I put into learning less meaningful, so despite feeling nervous, I order in Urdu. I can speak very well, and had no problem communicating myself elaborately. After saying what I needed to say in Urdu, the man behind the counter, looking as uninterested and unengaged as possible, avoiding eye contact, simple asks, "to go?"; I answer. And that was it. I felt humiliated as he made me feel like an idiot, not showing any appreciation or admiration for someone who obviously is not Pakistani, trying to assimilate in the culture through language. My wife suggested that he may have thought I was Pakistani, but actually this isn't an isolated incident. Whether I could hardly say anything and trying to speak or nearly fluent and trying to speak, the majority of Pakistanis I have encountered were not the least bit interested in humoring me by showing interest in the effort I have put in. Does anyone want to comment on this? Perhaps someone else has had a similar experience feeling discouraged?

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I just looked up Italki for the first time for an American learning Urdu, and when I found out that you were FLUENT in Urdu, I was really amazed. I'm not sure why your encounters with Urdu natives have been so discouraging, but I'd sure be amazed if a foreigner spoke to me in Urdu. I have been learning Chinese for the past one year, and have met all kinds of Chinese. I've had encounters in the supermarket where they just told me to go away straight into my face, or at an exhibition, where the guy waved me off as if I was a lacky or something. On the bright side I have met amazing friends who have helped me and encouraged me to the utmost in my Chinese journey. So, don't feel disheartened, it just may be that the lot you met didn't understand what a huge gesture it is. I mean, I feel thrilled when some of my Chinese friends speak in Urdu. I'm a Pakistani English teacher and an avid language learner. Right now, I'm looking to improve my accent. Hope my answer helps, and hope keep sharpening up your Urdu! Best of luck
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You spoke to him in urdu and he understood, that is commendable. You deserve a pat at the back. Now there are people who don't like surprises, they dont respond well, they don't appreciate small things in life, then there are people who are the opposite and they like being happy and sharing happiness by appreciating and complimenting all good things in life. If you encounter first type of people don't get hurt, don't judge yourself on their response. It's in their nature, ignore them. Instead learn to celebrate success and achievement by yourself.. you gathered the courage to talk to him in urdu and he understood, that is awesome... isn't it?
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Sam, this is extremely insightful. I never would have considered this but it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing this thought!
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Hi Kevin -- I don't know if this is the answer (and would be very interested to hear the opinion of any Pakistanis on this question), but it's possible that some of the people you encounter don't really identify with Urdu. Most Pakistanis, I'm told, consider Punjabi, Sindhi, etc. to be their "mother tongue," and would speak Urdu mostly as a second language. Maybe your experience would have been different if you spoke Punjabi instead?

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